Paul L. Caron

Tuesday, August 20, 2013

Law School Applicants From Top Colleges Plunge 26%

Associate's Mind has crunched the numbers and found that law school applicants from graduates of the Ivy league plus Chicago, Duke, and Stanford have plunged 26% since 2008:


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Doug, well said. This also corresponds with the highest quintile of LSAT-takers eschewing law school to the largest extent.

Posted by: Kristian Kanya | Aug 21, 2013 10:05:15 AM

Following Doug Wenzel's observation, not only are the Ivy Grads picking up on the problems of Big Law, the problems must be pervasive and inescapable, because many Ivy Grads have Ivy Grad parents and relatives with Contacts (It's not what you know ....) in Big Law and Really Big Law, and if these kids have gotten the message that getting in is unlikely, then how is it for the rest of us scum?

Posted by: curmudgeoninchief | Aug 21, 2013 8:42:22 AM

To me, this means that the best and the brightest are the first to get the message about the collapse in Big Law hiring, which makes it much harder to pay back that law school debt due to the bi-modal distribution of entry level salaries. Graduates of these schools usually have connections, smarts, or both, but if getting a Big Law job has become much more difficult, then they will be looking for greener pastures.

Posted by: Doug Wenzel | Aug 21, 2013 7:16:54 AM

Although, if you assume the "best and the brightest" (I actually knew some of these people) then it IS something that matters. Otherwise, assuming humanistic skills probably not.

Posted by: David Barnhizer | Aug 20, 2013 3:49:32 PM

Paul...this number is less than the drop for all applicants for the recent time period, which is around 27% from 2008 to this admissions cycle (2013), nevertheless not a pretty number..r

Posted by: Roger Dennis | Aug 20, 2013 1:49:50 PM

An interesting fact found on a website: "Only 0.4 percent of undergraduates attend one of the Ivy League schools. This confirms my long-held belief that way too much attention is paid to these eight institutions."

Offers some context for crude analysis but may suggest that use of a 26% decline figure on what appears to be a .04% undergraduate base isn't exactly a crisis. Plus I would think that the "elite" schools have seen some enrollment declines so they are likely graduating as many students. Law schools have dramatic challenges but this probably does not rank near the top.

Posted by: David Barnhizer | Aug 20, 2013 1:01:59 PM