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Thursday, December 12, 2013

Law School Rankings by Elite Employment Outcomes

Excess of Democracy:  Ranking Law Schools by Elite Employment Outcomes, by Derek Muller (Pepperdine):

Thanks to the new granular employment data reported by law schools to the American Bar Association, we can try to evaluate student outcomes by a variety of metrics. I thought I'd try to rank schools by "elite employment outcomes" from the Class of 2012 data. This ranking looks at two employment figures: full-time, long-term bar passage-required employment in firms of 101 or more attorneys; and federal clerkships. ... I included the forty-two schools with at least 15%. (Also of note: fifteen schools had less than 1% of their graduates obtain elite employment outcomes.)

Here are the Top 10 law schools by elite employment outcomes:

Elite

Update:  Brian Leiter (Chicago) has more here.

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Comments

"Elite," I suppose, by at least the BigLaw measure. The number of federal clerkships is indeed a measure of positive outcomes. But employment in a firm of at least 101 lawyers? What does that show, other than that the newly employed lawyer will be making nearly enough money to be solvent. After four years of "elite" employment in BigLaw firms, these lawyers will have vast experience in handling document discovery. I'm impressed.

Posted by: Publius Novus | Dec 12, 2013 9:08:23 AM

I distinctly remember Simkovic writing in one of his follow-up rants to The Megabucks Degree that he was unable to find any data that showed that law school ranking had any effect on earnings, so clearly this analysis is all wrong. Simkovic has assured us that he is right about everything all the time, and you know, he did practice law for like a whole year, so he obviously knows the profession inside and out. This outdated notion that highly-ranked law school grads earn more than Cooley and Seton Hall grads must be disregarded forthwith and forever.

Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Dec 12, 2013 10:18:27 AM

Hell, if you are down to 57% by #10, how do #20 and #40 fare?

This law school thing looks more and more like the world's most expensive lottery ticket by the minute.

Posted by: cas127 | Dec 12, 2013 10:59:17 AM

Has "unemployed northeastern" ever considered the possibility that he is unemployed because he can't think or reason?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 12, 2013 11:58:33 AM

Hmmm.

I wonder if Anon is telling us who he is.

Unmasked at last!

Posted by: cas127 | Dec 12, 2013 12:55:27 PM

Anon, I have traditionally chalked it up to living in a state where there is barely 1 attorney position for every 4 people who pass the state's bar exam. Oh, and my law school's grads are barely hitting 40% legal employment nine months out these days - the 160th best showing amongst law schools, according to The Faculty Lounge. But I guess it's actually 'cuz I cants' thinks or raisins good. Thanks for clearing that up! I'll guess I'll go throw out all the academic awards I've garnered over the years. And my bar license, of course.

Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Dec 12, 2013 12:57:58 PM