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Thursday, March 28, 2013

The 2014 U.S. News Law School Rankings: Employment Data (Part II)

Following up on yesterday's post, my colleague 2014 U.S. NewsDerek Muller (Pepperdine) has delved deeper into the employment data in the 2014 U.S. News Law School Rankings and created more Top 10 lists:

  • We Take Care of Our Own (Graduates employed in law school/university funded positions)
  • We Take Care of Our Own, Full-Time, Long-Term (Graduates employed in law school/university funded positions, full-time, long-term)
  • Big Law, More or Less (Number of graduates employed in law firm / total graduates * graduates employed in law firms consisting of more than 100 lawyers, full-time, long-term)
  • Federal Clerks (Number of graduates employed in judicial clerkships / total graduates * graduates employed in federal judicial clerkships, full-time, long-term)
  • Elite Outcomes (Combined “Big Law, More or Less” and “Federal Clerks” categories)
  • We Hang Shingles (Number of graduates employed in law firm / total graduates * graduates employed as a solo practitioner, full-time, long-term)
  • Good Enough for Government (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in government, full-time, long-term)
  • Save the World (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in public interest including public defender, full-time, long-term)
  • But I Want to Do International Law (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in foreign countries)
  • Far and Wide (Number of states where graduates are employed)
  • The White List (Schools that reported zero law school/university funded positions 9 months after graduation)

We Take Care of Our Own (Graduates employed in law school/university funded positions)

1. University of Notre Dame 22.6%
2. Boston University 20.9%
3. University of California—Los Angeles 18.6%
4. University of Virginia 17.0%
5. Phoenix School of Law 16.8%
6. Vanderbilt University 15.7%
7. George Washington University 15.6%
8. University of the Pacific 15.2%
9. Golden Gate University 14.1%
10. Florida Coastal School of Law 13.7%

We Take Care of Our Own, Full-Time, Long-Term (Graduates employed in law school/university funded positions, full-time, long-term)

1. University of Virginia 17.0%
2. George Washington University 15.4%
3. New York University 12.0%
4. University of Chicago 11.8%
5. Yale University 10.7%
6. University of Massachusetts—Dartmouth 5.9%
7. Harvard University 5.7%
8. Emory University 4.9%
9. University of Illinois—Urbana-Champaign 4.2%
10. Georgetown University 3.0%

Big Law, More or Less (Number of graduates employed in law firm / total graduates * graduates employed in law firms consisting of more than 100 lawyers, full-time, long-term)

1. Columbia University 61.4%
2. University of Pennsylvania 58.0%
3. Northwestern University 53.3%
4. Stanford University 49.5%
5. Harvard University 48.7%
6. Duke University 45.0%
7. University of Chicago 44.9%
8. New York University 43.1%
9. University of California—Berkeley 41.6%
10. Cornell University 38.8%

Federal Clerks (Number of graduates employed in judicial clerkships / total graduates * graduates employed in federal judicial clerkships, full-time, long-term)

1. Yale University 33.2%
2. Stanford University 23.5%
3. Harvard University 16.3%
4. Duke University 11.1%
5. New York University 10.9%
6. University of Virginia 10.6%
7. University of Michigan—Ann Arbor 10.6%
8. Vanderbilt University 10.1%
9. University of California—Berkeley 9.7%
10. University of Chicago 9.4%

Elite Outcomes (Combined “Big Law, More or Less” and “Federal Clerks” categories)

1. Stanford University 72.9%
2. Columbia University 69.5%
3. University of Pennsylvania 67.1%
4. Yale University 66.4%
5. Harvard University 65.0%
6. Northwestern University 61.4%
7. Duke University 56.1%
8. University of Chicago 54.2%
9. New York University 54.1%
10. University of California—Berkeley 51.3%

We Hang Shingles (Number of graduates employed in law firm / total graduates * graduates employed as a solo practitioner, full-time, long-term)

1. Texas Southern University 18.4%
2. St. Mary’s University 11.7%
3. Atlanta’s John Marshall Law School 11.4%
4. Willamette University 10.9%
5. Mississippi College 9.1%
6. Texas Wesleyan University 9.0%
7. Southern Illinois University—Carbondale 8.2%
8. Oklahoma City University 8.0%
9. North Carolina Central University 7.7%
10. Thomas M. Cooley Law School 7.6%

Good Enough for Government (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in government, full-time, long-term)

1. Catholic University of America 21.8%
1. George Mason University 21.8%
3. University of Louisville 19.7%
4. Florida State University 19.3%
5. College of William & Mary 18.1%
6. University of Akron 17.2%
7. George Washington University 16.8%
8. University of New Mexico 16.5%
9. Howard University 15.9%
10. University of Iowa 15.3%
10. University of Oklahoma 15.3%

Save the World (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in public interest including public defender, full-time, long-term)

1. New York University 17.1%
1. CUNY 17.1%
3. University of Chicago 15.3%
3. Northeastern University 15.3%
5. University of Wisconsin—Madison 12.6%
6. Yale University 11.2% 6. University of Virginia 11.2%
8. University of California—Berkeley 10.9%
9. University of Michigan—Ann Arbor 10.5%
10. University of Arizona 9.5%

But I Want to Do International Law (Number of graduates employed / total graduates * graduates employed in foreign countries)

1. University of Detroit Mercy 18.2%
2. Washington University in St. Louis 6.6%
3. Yale University 5.9%
4. Michigan State University 5.7%
5. Cornell University 5.4%
6. Columbia University 5.1%
7. University of North Dakota 4.9%
8. University of Chicago 3.9%
8. Duke University 3.9%
8. University of Washington 3.9%

Far and Wide (Number of states where graduates are employed)

1. Harvard University 42
2. Thomas M. Cooley Law School 41
3. University of Virginia 37
4. Vanderbilt University 36
5. Georgetown University 35
6. Washington University in St. Louis 34
6. Vermont Law School 34
8. University of Michigan—Ann Arbor 33
9. Yale University 32
9. University of Notre Dame 32

The White List (Schools that reported zero law school/university funded positions 9 months after graduation)

Appalachian School of Law
Ave Maria School of Law
Barry University
Campbell University
Catholic University of America
Cleveland State University
College of William & Mary
Drake University
Elon University
Faulkner University
Florida A&M University
Georgia State University
Gonzaga University
Hamline University
Howard University
Indiana University—Indianapolis
Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge
Marquette University
North Carolina Central University
Nova Southeastern University
Ohio Northern University
Oklahoma City University
Roger Williams University
Samford University
Southwestern Law School
Syracuse University
Texas Wesleyan University
Thomas Jefferson School of Law
Touro College
University of Akron
University of Alabama
University of Arizona
University of Arkansas—Little Rock
University of Dayton
University of Detroit Mercy
University of Hawaii
University of Idaho
University of Kentucky
University of Maine
University of Montana
University of Nevada—Las Vegas
University of New Mexico
University of Pittsburgh University of Richmond
University of South Dakota
University of St. Thomas
University of Tennessee—Knoxville
University of the District of Columbia
Valparaiso University
Vermont Law School
Washburn University
Western New England University
Western State College of Law
Widener University

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I see Northeastern, which used to claim it sent 5x the percent of its students into the public interest as compared to the average law school, cannot even crack the Top 10 in public interest anymore. I suppose that means it really is just another second-tier, $70,000+ per year law school with <50% legal employment.

Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Mar 28, 2013 11:29:47 AM

If I were an ABA auditor, I would focus on the schools that scored highest in the "We Take Care of Our Own, Full-Time, Long-Term" category. This is the category that really inflates a school's ranking as US News now counts the data, and I suspect this is where the most funny business would be found.

Posted by: Kipper | Mar 28, 2013 12:30:10 PM

Actually, great catch, "Northeastern." They're at 15.3%. I had wonky data for a couple of schools, and you spotted one of the problems. Thanks!

Posted by: Derek Muller | Mar 28, 2013 1:13:09 PM

Derek,

Actually, just-released 2012 jobs data has them at 14.9% public interest. http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=northweastern&show=chars&sub=employers Still, a 38.1% underemployment score and a non-discounted rate of $254,388 are just shameful. Add in even nominal undergrad debt, and even the 10 out of 215 graduates who landed large law firm jobs will need to go on IBR.

Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Mar 29, 2013 3:56:54 PM

The "international law" category could be very misleading. Simply being employed in a foreign country in no way suggests that you're doing international law.

Posted by: MHZ | Apr 10, 2013 11:05:43 PM