December 19, 2011
NLJ: Law School Transparency Hopes the Second Time's the Charm on Data
National Law Journal, Law School Transparency Hopes the Second Time's the Charm on Data:
In 2010, the first time Law School Transparency asked law schools to cough up detailed lists of their graduate employment data, it didn't go so well. The one school that offer to share its data — the Ave Maria School of Law — backed out months later.
The organization hopes for better success this year. It sent letters to every ABA-accredited law school on Dec. 14, asking them to release the graduate job employment report generated by the National Association for Law Placement (NALP) for the class of 2010.
The nonprofit group, which aims to improve law school consumer information, wants to plug some gaps in the information the ABA itself is compiling for the class of 2010, and to provide an apples-to-apples comparison of job and salary data to prospective law students before they decide where to apply, said Executive Director Kyle McEntee.
The ABA's Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar has responded to mounting criticism of the job data law schools provide by beefing up the annual jobs questionnaire that they must submit. It also has added new categories reflecting the number of graduates in jobs funded by the schools themselves and for graduates in short-term jobs.
But the section omitted some data fields from the 2011 survey, which queries law schools about the class of 2010 nine months after graduation, pending the transition to the new, expanded questionnaire. Without that information, students in next years' incoming class won't have the full employment picture, McEntee said.
The data NALP provides to individual schools are more detailed even than those the ABA plans to publish in the future; they include school-specific salary data for a variety of job categories and for different-sized employers.
Prospective law students would also benefit from knowing whether graduates are in long-term or short-term positions, McEntee said. A school that sends a large number of graduates into short-term public interest jobs as an employment stopgap is quite different from one that sends a large number into permanent public-interest jobs, he said.
A growing number of law schools have begun offering job and salary data on their Web sites that go beyond the minimum required by the ABA. They include Yale Law School, University of Chicago Law School, University of Michigan Law School, Michigan State University College of Law, Loyola University Chicago School of Law, University of Denver Sturm College of Law and Southwestern Law School.
But even most of those schools don't include all the data generated in the NALP reports, and they don't present the data in a uniform way that allows prospective law students to compare them across the board, McEntee said. ... While the initial reaction has been positive, McEntee said, it remains to be seen whether schools will voluntarily release what have long been seen as proprietary data.
- Charles Cooper, Update from Law School Transparency
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LST wants to present the information in a uniform way? Isn't that what US News does now? And what the ABA does now? so this going to be another third party, with another uniform way to present the data. Will there be lawsuits against the schools if LST's uniform way is viewed as misleading?
Posted by: Hal | Dec 19, 2011 8:00:38 AM
'Prospective law students would also benefit from knowing whether graduates are in long-term or short-term positions' I think this is a really interesting and valid point to make. How can we expect potential students to make an educated decision when choosing a law school if they don't have all of the information.
Posted by: Lizzie | Dec 19, 2011 9:32:54 AM